Re: fuel sender not responding on Sahara

[scfarley]

'You can use VMSpc to keep track of the amount of fuel used using the "Tank Minder" guage. There is a configuration screen where you enter the tank size (and a few other items). Put it on your screen and it shows how much fuel is left. Will be more accurate than a mechanical fuel guage. Stay above a 1/4 tank and you should be good to go.

If you have not seen the guages download the software from Silverleaf Electronics. You can see all of the guages - you need to buy the interface unit if you want to use the product. I love mine - tells me everything I need to know at a single glance.

Steve
96 Sahara 250 Cat

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "herbhaynes" wrote:
>
> If you have a CAT 3126 engine, VMSpc won't help with a fuel guage problem, since the CAT ECM does not measure or transmit fuel tank information on the data buss that VMSpc uses. The ECM measures each tiny dollop of fuel sent to the injectors and adds them all up in order to keep track of (and report on the data buss) the amount of fuel used.
>
> Herb 1996 Beaver Monterey, CAT 3126 300 hp
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "Dan" wrote:
> >
> > I found the VMSPC unit to be an excellent solution:
> > http://www.silverleafelectronics.com/node/6
> > Or you might also look at the Scan Gauge:
> > http://www.scangauge.com/
> >
> > There are a number of threads about the fuel sending unit and associated problems on the board IIRC. My rig had the sending unit replaced before I got it and it still is a pain. I suspect it is a grounding issue as someone else mentioned above. There are VMSpc threads on the board, I am not sure if there are any on the Scan Gauge.
> >
> > Dan Miller
> > '97 30' Sahara w/Cat250
> >
> > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, ART wrote:
> > >
> > > There are several of us who would like a solution to this problem.
> > >  
> > > Art
> > > 96 Seren
> > >
> > > --- On Wed, 2/27/13, dwightlorenz wrote:
> > >
> > > From: dwightlorenz
> > > Subject: [Safarifriends] fuel sender not responding on Sahara
> > > To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Wednesday, February 27, 2013, 9:02 AM
> > >  
> > >
> > > What is best replacement for bad sender. I would like to keep guage working .Any external sender unit?
> > > Any easy engine fuel line and fuel return line measurement devices that could be installed with another guage?
> > > Anyone replace sender unit?Does front axle have to be dropped?
> > > Thanks in advance for ideas.
>

'

[stuplich@ymail.com]

'Dwight
If you are asking about the "ScanGauge D", I had to modify the supplied cord to make it fit the Safari/Cat 6 pin connector under the dash.
AND I had to modify the female connectors in that cord had to be modified to make, (and maintain), electrical contact with the pins in the port.... (then it was necessary secure it with a tie-wrap).
Once modified it will fit both/either port but it would be harder to secure it onto the port in the rear service bay.

If I had it to do over again....I wouldn't....I would spend the extra $$$ for a computer and a SilverLeaf VMSpc
However, at 129k miles I thought a $170 was enough to spend on a TOY that I had not needed for the 102k miles I had already driven my coach.

BTW the ScanGaugeD does not actually "measure" your fuel level.
As far as I can tell, it calculates, (aka guesses), fuel "used" based on data you enter.
You can guess the fuel level... (for FREE).
Example: @ 8MPG, 90 gallons will take you 760 miles.
If you fill the tank every 550-600 miles, you will never run out.
Mel
'96 Sahara, 250hp Cat 3126

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "dwight" wrote:
>
> Does 96 Sahara with Cat 3126 have connections for Scan unit under the dash?
> Does Scan unit work on plug in engine service bay?
> Thanks for info.
> Dwight
>
> From: jquade_fwb
> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 9:37 AM
> To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Safarifriends] Re: fuel sender not responding on Sahara
>
>
> Forgot to add, I did the test that I posted and determined that it was the sender unit. I then opened that plate hatch and discovered that the arm the float was on had rusted and broke off nand the float was "floating around in the 80 gallon tank" and I fished it out. Replacement of tank float are rather straight forward, just follow the instructions for adjustment. My hatch/tank cover and gasket looked symetrical but turn out that it was not and I had to try a lot of different positions before everything lined up. I would suggest that before you take it off (unscrew it), use a marker on both the cover and gasket.
>
> --- In mailto:Safarifriends%40yahoogroups.com, "jquade_fwb" wrote:
> >
> > From my Bayliner Owners Boating website - doesn't have to be the sending unit (or worst case). Tap on the gauge and see whether it moves. These instruments aren't that high a quality that water or humidity doesn't hurt them.
> >
> > A more difficult way to test the same is to disconnect one of the wires at the sending unit and if it remains on 1/3 you know it's the instrument.
> >
> > The sender is relatively easy to change if it's the culprit. There's a plate with the sender mounted in the tank. Unbolt it and bolt the new one in. Make sure that you don't generate sparks while the sender hole is open. Don't want to read about you in the newspaper. The senders have a generic mounting plate and all you have to know is the height of your fuel tank. Available almost at any boating place. No need to pay the dealer prices.
> >
> > --- In mailto:Safarifriends%40yahoogroups.com, "dwight" wrote:
> > >
> > > I have traced the wire back to the side of the tank under the floor and have no resistance on meter. Have good ground on tank, but can’t see sender to check for ground on sender unit or connection from gauge.
> > > Also have bench tested gauge with new sender ,is O.K..
> > > Last time m/h was very low on fuel the needle did jump a couple of times.It would not settle for a reading ,but small quick jumps .I believe the connections are O.K.
> > > I suspect the float has become waterlogged and won,t float.
> > > The gauge reads full with ignition on, empty with off. I took a reading on the external resister on back of gauge;can,t remember the value but has resistance.
> > >
> > >
> > > From: John Ruff
> > > Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 6:29 AM
> > > To: mailto:Safarifriends%40yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [Safarifriends] Re: fuel sender not responding on Sahara
> > >
> > >
> > > How do you know it is the sender?
> > >
> > > Does your gauge read full or empty?
> > >
> > > John Ruff
> > > 96 Safari Sahara
> > >
> > > --- In mailto:Safarifriends%40yahoogroups.com, "dwightlorenz" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What is best replacement for bad sender. I would like to keep guage working .Any external sender unit?
> > > > Any easy engine fuel line and fuel return line measurement devices that could be installed with another guage?
> > > > Anyone replace sender unit?Does front axle have to be dropped?
> > > > Thanks in advance for ideas.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

'

[Bubba]

'Our original Silverleaf unit went toes-up last month and I ordered a Scanguage-D for a replacement.
I "hard wired" the Scanguage wiring into the Silverleaf wiring, after cutting off the double plug on the Scanguage "harness" to get the signal inputs; all with help from Scanguage support. They are very helpful and great to work with.
Our fuel gauge stopped working years ago and the engine computer does a great job of tracking fuel use, which the Silver Leaf and Scanguage dutifully report.
JM2C


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--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "stuplich@..." wrote:
>
> Dwight
> If you are asking about the "ScanGauge D", I had to modify the supplied cord to make it fit the Safari/Cat 6 pin connector under the dash.
> AND I had to modify the female connectors in that cord had to be modified to make, (and maintain), electrical contact with the pins in the port.... (then it was necessary secure it with a tie-wrap).
> Once modified it will fit both/either port but it would be harder to secure it onto the port in the rear service bay.
>
> If I had it to do over again....I wouldn't....I would spend the extra $$$ for a computer and a SilverLeaf VMSpc
> However, at 129k miles I thought a $170 was enough to spend on a TOY that I had not needed for the 102k miles I had already driven my coach.
>
> BTW the ScanGaugeD does not actually "measure" your fuel level.
> As far as I can tell, it calculates, (aka guesses), fuel "used" based on data you enter.
> You can guess the fuel level... (for FREE).
> Example: @ 8MPG, 90 gallons will take you 760 miles.
> If you fill the tank every 550-600 miles, you will never run out.
> Mel
> '96 Sahara, 250hp Cat 3126
>
>
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "dwight" wrote:
> >
> > Does 96 Sahara with Cat 3126 have connections for Scan unit under the dash?
> > Does Scan unit work on plug in engine service bay?
> > Thanks for info.
> > Dwight
> >
> > From: jquade_fwb
> > Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 9:37 AM
> > To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Safarifriends] Re: fuel sender not responding on Sahara
> >
> >
> > Forgot to add, I did the test that I posted and determined that it was the sender unit. I then opened that plate hatch and discovered that the arm the float was on had rusted and broke off nand the float was "floating around in the 80 gallon tank" and I fished it out. Replacement of tank float are rather straight forward, just follow the instructions for adjustment. My hatch/tank cover and gasket looked symetrical but turn out that it was not and I had to try a lot of different positions before everything lined up. I would suggest that before you take it off (unscrew it), use a marker on both the cover and gasket.
> >
> > --- In mailto:Safarifriends%40yahoogroups.com, "jquade_fwb" wrote:
> > >
> > > From my Bayliner Owners Boating website - doesn't have to be the sending unit (or worst case). Tap on the gauge and see whether it moves. These instruments aren't that high a quality that water or humidity doesn't hurt them.
> > >
> > > A more difficult way to test the same is to disconnect one of the wires at the sending unit and if it remains on 1/3 you know it's the instrument.
> > >
> > > The sender is relatively easy to change if it's the culprit. There's a plate with the sender mounted in the tank. Unbolt it and bolt the new one in. Make sure that you don't generate sparks while the sender hole is open. Don't want to read about you in the newspaper. The senders have a generic mounting plate and all you have to know is the height of your fuel tank. Available almost at any boating place. No need to pay the dealer prices.
> > >
> > > --- In mailto:Safarifriends%40yahoogroups.com, "dwight" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have traced the wire back to the side of the tank under the floor and have no resistance on meter. Have good ground on tank, but can’t see sender to check for ground on sender unit or connection from gauge.
> > > > Also have bench tested gauge with new sender ,is O.K..
> > > > Last time m/h was very low on fuel the needle did jump a couple of times.It would not settle for a reading ,but small quick jumps .I believe the connections are O.K.
> > > > I suspect the float has become waterlogged and won,t float.
> > > > The gauge reads full with ignition on, empty with off. I took a reading on the external resister on back of gauge;can,t remember the value but has resistance.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: John Ruff
> > > > Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 6:29 AM
> > > > To: mailto:Safarifriends%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [Safarifriends] Re: fuel sender not responding on Sahara
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > How do you know it is the sender?
> > > >
> > > > Does your gauge read full or empty?
> > > >
> > > > John Ruff
> > > > 96 Safari Sahara
> > > >
> > > > --- In mailto:Safarifriends%40yahoogroups.com, "dwightlorenz" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > What is best replacement for bad sender. I would like to keep guage working .Any external sender unit?
> > > > > Any easy engine fuel line and fuel return line measurement devices that could be installed with another guage?
> > > > > Anyone replace sender unit?Does front axle have to be dropped?
> > > > > Thanks in advance for ideas.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

'

[ART]

'John, How did you get to the sender on the tank?  I can't see or even feel the sender even tho I know its on the top of the tank.   What is your model/year?  Can't remenber.   Art 96 Seren  

--- On Fri, 3/1/13, jquade_fwb wrote:

From: jquade_fwb
Subject: [Safarifriends] Re: fuel sender not responding on Sahara
To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, March 1, 2013, 11:26 AM

  From my Bayliner Owners Boating website - doesn't have to be the sending unit (or worst case). Tap on the gauge and see whether it moves. These instruments aren't that high a quality that water or humidity doesn't hurt them.

A more difficult way to test the same is to disconnect one of the wires at the sending unit and if it remains on 1/3 you know it's the instrument.

The sender is relatively easy to change if it's the culprit. There's a plate with the sender mounted in the tank. Unbolt it and bolt the new one in. Make sure that you don't generate sparks while the sender hole is open. Don't want to read about you in the newspaper. The senders have a generic mounting plate and all you have to know is the height of your fuel tank. Available almost at any boating place. No need to pay the dealer prices.

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "dwight" wrote:
>
> I have traced the wire back to the side of the tank under the floor and have no resistance on meter. Have good ground on tank, but can’t see sender to check for ground on sender unit or connection from gauge.
> Also have bench tested gauge with new sender ,is O.K..
> Last time m/h was very low on fuel the needle did jump a couple of times.It would not settle for a reading ,but small quick jumps .I believe the connections are O.K.
> I suspect the float has become waterlogged and won,t float.
> The gauge reads full with ignition on, empty with off. I took a reading on the external resister on back of gauge;can,t remember the value but has resistance.
>
>
> From: John Ruff
> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 6:29 AM
> To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Safarifriends] Re: fuel sender not responding on Sahara
>
>
> How do you know it is the sender?
>
> Does your gauge read full or empty?
>
> John Ruff
> 96 Safari Sahara
>
> --- In mailto:Safarifriends%40yahoogroups.com, "dwightlorenz" wrote:
> >
> > What is best replacement for bad sender. I would like to keep guage working .Any external sender unit?
> > Any easy engine fuel line and fuel return line measurement devices that could be installed with another guage?
> > Anyone replace sender unit?Does front axle have to be dropped?
> > Thanks in advance for ideas.
> >
>

'

[TERRY SELVIDGE]

'AMEN......TERRY
"stuplich@..." wrote:

> Dwight
> If you are asking about the "ScanGauge D", I had to
>modify the supplied cord to make it fit the Safari/Cat 6
>pin connector under the dash.
> AND I had to modify the female connectors in that cord
>had to be modified to make, (and maintain), electrical
>contact with the pins in the port.... (then it was
>necessary secure it with a tie-wrap).
> Once modified it will fit both/either port but it would
>be harder to secure it onto the port in the rear service
>bay.
>
> If I had it to do over again....I wouldn't....I would
>spend the extra $$$ for a computer and a SilverLeaf VMSpc
> However, at 129k miles I thought a $170 was enough to
>spend on a TOY that I had not needed for the 102k miles I
>had already driven my coach.
>
> BTW the ScanGaugeD does not actually "measure" your fuel
>level.
> As far as I can tell, it calculates, (aka guesses), fuel
>"used" based on data you enter.
> You can guess the fuel level... (for FREE).
> Example: @ 8MPG, 90 gallons will take you 760 miles.
> If you fill the tank every 550-600 miles, you will never
>run out.
> Mel
> '96 Sahara, 250hp Cat 3126
>
>
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "dwight"
> wrote:
>>
>> Does 96 Sahara with Cat 3126 have connections for Scan
>>unit under the dash?
>> Does Scan unit work on plug in engine service bay?
>> Thanks for info.
>> Dwight
>>
>> From: jquade_fwb
>> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 9:37 AM
>> To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: [Safarifriends] Re: fuel sender not responding
>>on Sahara
>>
>>
>> Forgot to add, I did the test that I posted and
>>determined that it was the sender unit. I then opened
>>that plate hatch and discovered that the arm the float
>>was on had rusted and broke off nand the float was
>>"floating around in the 80 gallon tank" and I fished it
>>out. Replacement of tank float are rather straight
>>forward, just follow the instructions for adjustment. My
>>hatch/tank cover and gasket looked symetrical but turn
>>out that it was not and I had to try a lot of different
>>positions before everything lined up. I would suggest
>>that before you take it off (unscrew it), use a marker on
>>both the cover and gasket.
>>
>> --- In mailto:Safarifriends%40yahoogroups.com,
>>"jquade_fwb" wrote:
>> >
>> > From my Bayliner Owners Boating website - doesn't have
>>to be the sending unit (or worst case). Tap on the gauge
>>and see whether it moves. These instruments aren't that
>>high a quality that water or humidity doesn't hurt them.
>> >
>> > A more difficult way to test the same is to disconnect
>>one of the wires at the sending unit and if it remains on
>>1/3 you know it's the instrument.
>> >
>> > The sender is relatively easy to change if it's the
>>culprit. There's a plate with the sender mounted in the
>>tank. Unbolt it and bolt the new one in. Make sure that
>>you don't generate sparks while the sender hole is open.
>>Don't want to read about you in the newspaper. The
>>senders have a generic mounting plate and all you have to
>>know is the height of your fuel tank. Available almost at
>>any boating place. No need to pay the dealer prices.
>> >
>> > --- In mailto:Safarifriends%40yahoogroups.com,
>>"dwight" wrote:
>> > >
>> > > I have traced the wire back to the side of the tank
>>under the floor and have no resistance on meter. Have
>>good ground on tank, but can’t see sender to check
>>for ground on sender unit or connection from gauge.
>> > > Also have bench tested gauge with new sender ,is
>>O.K..
>> > > Last time m/h was very low on fuel the needle did
>>jump a couple of times.It would not settle for a reading
>>,but small quick jumps .I believe the connections are
>>O.K.
>> > > I suspect the float has become waterlogged and won,t
>>float.
>> > > The gauge reads full with ignition on, empty with
>>off. I took a reading on the external resister on back of
>>gauge;can,t remember the value but has resistance.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > From: John Ruff
>> > > Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 6:29 AM
>> > > To: mailto:Safarifriends%40yahoogroups.com
>> > > Subject: [Safarifriends] Re: fuel sender not
>>responding on Sahara
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > How do you know it is the sender?
>> > >
>> > > Does your gauge read full or empty?
>> > >
>> > > John Ruff
>> > > 96 Safari Sahara
>> > >
>> > > --- In mailto:Safarifriends%40yahoogroups.com,
>>"dwightlorenz" wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > What is best replacement for bad sender. I would
>>like to keep guage working .Any external sender unit?
>> > > > Any easy engine fuel line and fuel return line
>>measurement devices that could be installed with another
>>guage?
>> > > > Anyone replace sender unit?Does front axle have to
>>be dropped?
>> > > > Thanks in advance for ideas.
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
>

'

[Rod Branch]

'Very low tech solution.  Cover the fuel gauge with an erasable cover and write your fill up mileage down.  Fill tank every 500 miles or whtever you feel comfortable with.  Mine is an 80 gallon tank.   Rod 95 30'Sahara

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:02 AM, dwightlorenz wrote:
 
What is best replacement for bad sender. I would like to keep guage working .Any external sender unit?
Any easy engine fuel line and fuel return line measurement devices that could be installed with another guage?
Anyone replace sender unit?Does front axle have to be dropped?
Thanks in advance for ideas.

'

[paulcell47]

'I use the same technique, 500 miles is a good number. My gauge says full until down half way, then works fine down to empty. Probably a fault in the resistance winding on the sender. Unfortunately, the sender is behind the frame,so would have to drop the tank to repair. Too much work. Question, the Silverleaf reads out miles per gallon, so is there a way to get total gallons used? You would have to reset to O at fillup, but it should  work?

From: "Rod Branch"
To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2013 6:41:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] fuel sender not responding on Sahara

Very low tech solution.  Cover the fuel gauge with an erasable cover and write your fill up mileage down.  Fill tank every 500 miles or whtever you feel comfortable with.  Mine is an 80 gallon tank.   Rod 95 30'Sahara

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:02 AM, dwightlorenz wrote:
 
What is best replacement for bad sender. I would like to keep guage working .Any external sender unit?
Any easy engine fuel line and fuel return line measurement devices that could be installed with another guage?
Anyone replace sender unit?Does front axle have to be dropped?
Thanks in advance for ideas.

'

[ART]

'Rod, I've been using your method for over 4 years with the 100 gal tank on the Serengeti.  Bought a VmsPC last year before a long trip but the shipped connector was wrong for my coach.  Got the service bay connector changed but ran out of physical agility for the under dash connector so I'm back to the Rod method.  One of these days..............   Art 96 Seren

--- On Sun, 3/3/13, nanandpete@... wrote:

From: nanandpete@...
Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] fuel sender not responding on Sahara
To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 3, 2013, 10:59 AM

  I use the same technique, 500 miles is a good number. My gauge says full until down half way, then works fine down to empty. Probably a fault in the resistance winding on the sender. Unfortunately, the sender is behind the frame,so would have to drop the tank to repair. Too much work. Question, the Silverleaf reads out miles per gallon, so is there a way to get total gallons used? You would have to reset to O at fillup, but it should  work?

From: "Rod Branch"
To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2013 6:41:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] fuel sender not responding on Sahara

Very low tech solution.  Cover the fuel gauge with an erasable cover and write your fill up mileage down.  Fill tank every 500 miles or whtever you feel comfortable with.  Mine is an 80 gallon tank.   Rod 95 30'Sahara

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:02 AM, dwightlorenz wrote:
  What is best replacement for bad sender. I would like to keep guage working .Any external sender unit?
Any easy engine fuel line and fuel return line measurement devices that could be installed with another guage?
Anyone replace sender unit?Does front axle have to be dropped?
Thanks in advance for ideas.


'

[John Ruff]

'Rod I have the 96 Safari with the ODB1 connector hooked up to VMSPC and I love it!

John Ruff
96 Safari

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, ART wrote:
>
> Rod, I've been using your method for over 4 years with the 100 gal tank on the Serengeti.  Bought a VmsPC last year before a long trip but the shipped connector was wrong for my coach.  Got the service bay connector changed but ran out of physical agility for the under dash connector so I'm back to the Rod method.  One of these days..............
>  
> Art
> 96 Seren
>
> --- On Sun, 3/3/13, nanandpete@... wrote:
>
>
> From: nanandpete@...
> Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] fuel sender not responding on Sahara
> To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, March 3, 2013, 10:59 AM
>
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
> I use the same technique, 500 miles is a good number. My gauge says full until down half way, then works fine down to empty. Probably a fault in the resistance winding on the sender. Unfortunately, the sender is behind the frame,so would have to drop the tank to repair. Too much work. Question, the Silverleaf reads out miles per gallon, so is there a way to get total gallons used? You would have to reset to O at fillup, but it should  work?
>
>
>
> From: "Rod Branch"
> To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2013 6:41:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] fuel sender not responding on Sahara
>
> Very low tech solution.  Cover the fuel gauge with an erasable cover and write your fill up mileage down.  Fill tank every 500 miles or whtever you feel comfortable with.  Mine is an 80 gallon tank.   Rod 95 30'Sahara
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:02 AM, dwightlorenz wrote:
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> What is best replacement for bad sender. I would like to keep guage working .Any external sender unit?
> Any easy engine fuel line and fuel return line measurement devices that could be installed with another guage?
> Anyone replace sender unit?Does front axle have to be dropped?
> Thanks in advance for ideas.
>

'

[billygoof1]

'What data is available from OBD1 ???

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "John Ruff" wrote:
>
> Rod I have the 96 Safari with the ODB1 connector hooked up to VMSPC and I love it!
>
> John Ruff
> 96 Safari
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, ART wrote:
> >
> > Rod, I've been using your method for over 4 years with the 100 gal tank on the Serengeti.  Bought a VmsPC last year before a long trip but the shipped connector was wrong for my coach.  Got the service bay connector changed but ran out of physical agility for the under dash connector so I'm back to the Rod method.  One of these days..............
> >  
> > Art
> > 96 Seren
> >
> > --- On Sun, 3/3/13, nanandpete@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: nanandpete@
> > Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] fuel sender not responding on Sahara
> > To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Sunday, March 3, 2013, 10:59 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I use the same technique, 500 miles is a good number. My gauge says full until down half way, then works fine down to empty. Probably a fault in the resistance winding on the sender. Unfortunately, the sender is behind the frame,so would have to drop the tank to repair. Too much work. Question, the Silverleaf reads out miles per gallon, so is there a way to get total gallons used? You would have to reset to O at fillup, but it should  work?
> >
> >
> >
> > From: "Rod Branch"
> > To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2013 6:41:00 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] fuel sender not responding on Sahara
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> > Very low tech solution.  Cover the fuel gauge with an erasable cover and write your fill up mileage down.  Fill tank every 500 miles or whtever you feel comfortable with.  Mine is an 80 gallon tank.   Rod 95 30'Sahara
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> > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:02 AM, dwightlorenz wrote:
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> > What is best replacement for bad sender. I would like to keep guage working .Any external sender unit?
> > Any easy engine fuel line and fuel return line measurement devices that could be installed with another guage?
> > Anyone replace sender unit?Does front axle have to be dropped?
> > Thanks in advance for ideas.
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