Re: How much Engine Coolant

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fathog06_hd
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How much Engine Coolant

Post by fathog06_hd »

'
I have searched the file section of this forum without any success.
My two part question is: 
First - how much Engine Coolant does my system (radiator) hold? gallons
and Second: are the Engine Coolant and Hurricane Heating system Coolant Separate or utilize the same coolant?


99 Safari Serengeti 3706, 3126B 330hp Turbo Cat, 6 Spd Allison
Thanks Russ'
Jeff Jordan
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Re: How much Engine Coolant

Post by Jeff Jordan »

'I can’t answer the capacity question but do know the hurricane system uses a separate non-toxic cooling system since it has a heat exchanger with the domestic water system to make hot water. 
Jeff 99 Sahara 3126 Cat

On May 18, 2018, at 2:12 PM, fathog06_hd@... [Safarifriends] wrote:
 

I have searched the file section of this forum without any success.
My two part question is: 
First - how much Engine Coolant does my system (radiator) hold? gallons
and Second: are the Engine Coolant and Hurricane Heating system Coolant Separate or utilize the same coolant?


99 Safari Serengeti 3706, 3126B 330hp Turbo Cat, 6 Spd Allison
Thanks Russ
'
Dale Maggio
Posts: 470
Joined: Sat Jan 21, 2012 3:23 am

Re: How much Engine Coolant

Post by Dale Maggio »

'Not so sure about this. There is a valve under the bed that allows the Hurricane to pre-heat the engine in cold weather. The engine does not have a second water jacket.

-=Dale=-

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On Fri, 5/18/18, Jeff Jordan jeffjordan1972@... [Safarifriends] wrote:

Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] How much Engine Coolant
To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, May 18, 2018, 5:24 PM


 









I can’t answer the capacity
question but do know the hurricane system uses a separate
non-toxic cooling system since it has a heat exchanger with
the domestic water system to make hot water. 
Jeff 99 Sahara 3126
Cat


On May 18,
2018, at 2:12 PM, fathog06_hd@...
[Safarifriends]
wrote:
















 






I have searched the file section of
this forum without any success.My two
part question is: First - how much
Engine Coolant does my system (radiator) hold?
gallonsand Second: are the Engine
Coolant and Hurricane Heating system Coolant Separate or
utilize the same coolant?
99 Safari Serengeti 3706,
3126B 330hp Turbo Cat, 6 Spd
AllisonThanks Russ






















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TD
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Re: How much Engine Coolant

Post by TD »

'Dale,

Could there be a heat exchanger coil in the Hurricane that does not allow the engine coolant to mix with the Hurricane coolant???
It just seems odd that it would be set up to use the engine coolant that has various pressures and other chemicals in it, but in the same token SMC was capable of crazy stuff...

John
'95 Safari Serengeti 38ft, 300 Cummins 8.3CTA, Allison
6spd.
On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 9:54 AM, Dale Maggio dalemaggio@... [Safarifriends] wrote:
Not so sure about this.  There is a valve under the bed that allows the Hurricane to pre-heat the engine in cold weather.  The engine does not have a second water jacket.

-=Dale=-

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On Fri, 5/18/18, Jeff Jordan jeffjordan1972@... [Safarifriends] wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] How much Engine Coolant
 To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Friday, May 18, 2018, 5:24 PM


  









       I can’t answer the capacity
 question but do know the hurricane system uses a separate
 non-toxic cooling system since it has a heat exchanger with
 the domestic water system to make hot water. 
 Jeff 99 Sahara 3126
 Cat


 On May 18,
 2018, at 2:12 PM, fathog06_hd@...
 [Safarifriends]
 wrote:
















  






       I have searched the file section of
 this forum without any success.My two
 part question is: First - how much
 Engine Coolant does my system (radiator) hold?
 gallonsand Second: are the Engine
 Coolant and Hurricane Heating system Coolant Separate or
 utilize the same coolant?
 99 Safari Serengeti 3706,
 3126B 330hp Turbo Cat, 6 Spd
 AllisonThanks Russ






















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Ron Schroeder
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Re: How much Engine Coolant

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Bill Edwards
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Re: How much Engine Coolant

Post by Bill Edwards »

'That is a great question. My initial reaction was the water to water coil in the hurricane bay until it occured to me that one side of that was fresh water not engine coolant and why it froze last winter. Where is the exchange point for the engine coolant and the hurricane coolant. The two do not intermix. HUMMM
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dewey2501
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Re: How much Engine Coolant

Post by dewey2501 »

'Russ,
I drained and flushed my system last year when I had to fix my radiator, and it took almost 9 gallons to fill it back up.  I cheated and bought an "Air Lift" to vacuum my system to fill it and eliminate the problem with air blocks.  I don't have a Hurricane system on my rig, so can't provide any answers on that part though.
Duane96 Safari 30', 250hp Cat, Allison 6spdSpokane Wa
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Dale Maggio
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Re: How much Engine Coolant

Post by Dale Maggio »

'Al I know is that there is a 3-way valve under the bed. My Hurricane can be used to pre-heat the engine. It would also seem that the engine could heat the hot water. But I do not know for sure. I am believing there were different arrangements in different years and models of Safaris.

-=Dale=-
99 Sahara 3506
--------------------------------------------
On Sat, 5/19/18, TD sdjhtm@... [Safarifriends] wrote:

Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] How much Engine Coolant
To: "Dale Maggio dalemaggio@y."
Date: Saturday, May 19, 2018, 9:25 AM


Dale,

Could there be a heat
exchanger coil in the Hurricane that does not allow the
engine coolant to mix with the Hurricane coolant???
It just seems odd that it would be set up
to use the engine coolant that has various pressures and
other chemicals in it, but in the same token SMC was capable
of crazy stuff...

John
'95
Safari Serengeti 38ft, 300 Cummins 8.3CTA, Allison
6spd.

On Sat, May 19, 2018 at
9:54 AM, Dale Maggio dalemaggio@...
[Safarifriends]
wrote:
Not so sure about this.  There is a valve under the
bed that allows the Hurricane to pre-heat the engine in cold
weather.  The engine does not have a second water
jacket.



-=Dale=-



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On Fri, 5/18/18, Jeff Jordan jeffjordan1972@...
[Safarifriends] wrote:



 Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] How much Engine Coolant

 To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com

 Date: Friday, May 18, 2018, 5:24 PM





  



















       I can’t answer the capacity

 question but do know the hurricane system uses a
separate

 non-toxic cooling system since it has a heat exchanger
with

 the domestic water system to make hot water. 

 Jeff 99 Sahara 3126

 Cat





 On May 18,

 2018, at 2:12 PM, fathog06_hd@...

 [Safarifriends]

 wrote:

































  













       I have searched the file section of

 this forum without any success.My two

 part question is: First - how much

 Engine Coolant does my system (radiator) hold?

 gallonsand Second: are the Engine

 Coolant and Hurricane Heating system Coolant Separate
or

 utilize the same coolant?

 99 Safari Serengeti 3706,

 3126B 330hp Turbo Cat, 6 Spd

 AllisonThanks Russ













































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TD
Posts: 767
Joined: Fri May 16, 2014 4:01 am

Re: How much Engine Coolant

Post by TD »

'Ron,

Who did the work for you?

John
'95 Safari Serengeti 38ft, 300 Cummins 8.3CTA, Allison
6spd.
On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 2:06 PM, Ron Schroeder rschroeder@... [Safarifriends] wrote:


I just had Radiator, CAC, and Surge tank replaced (just North of $5K) and they billed me for 6 gallons of coolant.  I just took MH for a drive and both engine and transmission gages read straight up 190 to 200.   Peoria Ron 1999 Zanzabar 3126B with 6 speed Allison

From: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Jeff Jordan jeffjordan1972@... [Safarifriends]
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 7:24:43 PM
To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] How much Engine Coolant
   
I can’t answer the capacity question but do know the hurricane system uses a separate non-toxic cooling system since it has a heat exchanger with the domestic water system to make hot water. 
Jeff 99 Sahara 3126 Cat


On May 18, 2018, at 2:12 PM, fathog06_hd@... [Safarifriends] wrote:

 

I have searched the file section of this forum without any success..
My two part question is: 
First - how much Engine Coolant does my system (radiator) hold? gallons
and Second: are the Engine Coolant and Hurricane Heating system Coolant Separate or utilize the same coolant?


99 Safari Serengeti 3706, 3126B 330hp Turbo Cat, 6 Spd Allison
Thanks Russ




'
TD
Posts: 767
Joined: Fri May 16, 2014 4:01 am

Re: How much Engine Coolant

Post by TD »

'Dale,

When you have time, could you investigate a bit more, to see if there is an exchanger? It would be good to know how it is setup.

John
'95 Safari Serengeti 38ft, 300 Cummins 8.3CTA, Allison
6spd.
On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 4:34 PM, Dale Maggio dalemaggio@... [Safarifriends] wrote:
Al I know is that there is a 3-way valve under the bed.  My Hurricane can be used to pre-heat the engine.  It would also seem that the engine could heat the hot water.  But I do not know for sure.  I am believing there were different arrangements in different years and models of Safaris.

-=Dale=-
99 Sahara 3506
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On Sat, 5/19/18, TD sdjhtm@... [Safarifriends] wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] How much Engine Coolant
 To: "Dale Maggio dalemaggio@y."
 Date: Saturday, May 19, 2018, 9:25 AM


       Dale,

 Could there be a heat
 exchanger coil in the Hurricane that does not allow the
 engine coolant to mix with the Hurricane coolant???
 It just seems odd that it would be set up
 to use the engine coolant that has various pressures and
 other chemicals in it, but in the same token SMC was capable
 of crazy stuff...

 John
 '95
 Safari Serengeti 38ft, 300 Cummins 8.3CTA, Allison
 6spd.

 On Sat, May 19, 2018 at
 9:54 AM, Dale Maggio dalemaggio@...
 [Safarifriends]
 wrote:
 Not so sure about this.  There is a valve under the
 bed that allows the Hurricane to pre-heat the engine in cold
 weather.  The engine does not have a second water
 jacket.



 -=Dale=-



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 On Fri, 5/18/18, Jeff Jordan jeffjordan1972@...
 [Safarifriends] wrote:



  Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] How much Engine Coolant

  To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com

  Date: Friday, May 18, 2018, 5:24 PM





   



















        I can’t answer the capacity

  question but do know the hurricane system uses a
 separate

  non-toxic cooling system since it has a heat exchanger
 with

  the domestic water system to make hot water. 

  Jeff 99 Sahara 3126

  Cat





  On May 18,

  2018, at 2:12 PM, fathog06_hd@...

  [Safarifriends]

  wrote:

































   













        I have searched the file section of

  this forum without any success.My two

  part question is: First - how much

  Engine Coolant does my system (radiator) hold?

  gallonsand Second: are the Engine

  Coolant and Hurricane Heating system Coolant Separate
 or

  utilize the same coolant?

  99 Safari Serengeti 3706,

  3126B 330hp Turbo Cat, 6 Spd

  AllisonThanks Russ













































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