Re: Cheater Cord (was: Run 2 roof A/C on 30 Amp?)

mel96safari · Post by **mel96safari** » Sun Feb 17, 2019 2:55 am

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Need to run 2 A/Cs on 30 amp service? It's supposed be possible with 2 of these $299.00 devices

https://www.rvupgradestore.com/Micro-Air-ASY-364-X20-IP-EasyStart-364-AC-p/asy-364-x20-ip.htm

Important Note: Each AC unit requires an EasyStart unit to be installed.

Mel'96 Sahara

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TD · Post by TD » Sun Feb 17, 2019 1:24 pm

'Mel,
Thank you for the info. These units are probably very handy, especially if one is trying to run an a/c unit on a small generator.Just an fyi, I have never had an issue running both a/c units on 30amp power, but it does require switching the refrigerator to propane and not using any other heavy loads. I have done this many time on my Safari and also on my last unit, a Holiday Rambler. If one needs to use a high draw item like a microwave, then one a/c unit needs to be shut down until the microwave is no longer needed.

John
'95 Safari Serengeti 38ft, 300 Cummins 8.3CTA, Allison
6spd.

On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 12:55 PM stuplich@... [Safarifriends] wrote:

Need to run 2 A/Cs on 30 amp service? It's supposed be possible with 2 of these $299.00 devices

https://www.rvupgradestore.com/Micro-Air-ASY-364-X20-IP-EasyStart-364-AC-p/asy-364-x20-ip.htm

Important Note: Each AC unit requires an EasyStart unit to be installed.

Mel'96 Sahara

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Eddie Windom · Post by **Eddie Windom** » Sun Feb 17, 2019 3:12 pm

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LeisureCords 24'' RV Y Adapter Cord 50Amp Female Plug to One 30 Amp Male...Splits your 50 Amp Female to 30 Amp Male or 15 Amp Male -Specifications100% copper wire conductor inside -Heavy-...

Eddie2000 Safari Continental

On Sunday, February 17, 2019, 12:55:54 PM EST, stuplich@... [Safarifriends] wrote:

Need to run 2 A/Cs on 30 amp service? It's supposed be possible with 2 of these $299.00 devices

https://www.rvupgradestore.com/Micro-Air-ASY-364-X20-IP-EasyStart-364-AC-p/asy-364-x20-ip.htm

Important Note: Each AC unit requires an EasyStart unit to be installed.

Mel'96 Sahara

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Gerald Emert · Post by **Gerald Emert** » Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:15 pm

' I have one of these but have been unable to use it. Every time I try it pops the breaker on the pedestal. I believe I've heard that it won't work with GFCI outlets. Was a waste of money for me so far. Jerry 03 Beaver PT From: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Eddie Windom edbo_n_go@... [Safarifriends]
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 01:12
To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] Run 2 roof A/C on 30 Amp?
If there is a 15/20 amp plug in addition to the 30 Amp, you might consider getting one of these to bring you up to what you need: LeisureCords 24'' RV Y Adapter Cord 50Amp Female Plug to One 30 Amp Male and One 15 Amp Male 2.5 Feet with Handle (50 Amp Female - (1) 30 Amp Male & (1) 15 Amp Male)
$29.99

LeisureCords 24'' RV Y Adapter Cord 50Amp Female Plug to One 30 Amp Male... Splits your 50 Amp Female to 30 Amp Male or 15 Amp Male -Specifications100% copper wire conductor inside -Heavy-...

Eddie 2000 Safari Continental

On Sunday, February 17, 2019, 12:55:54 PM EST, stuplich@... [Safarifriends] wrote:

Need to run 2 A/Cs on 30 amp service? It's supposed be possible with 2 of these $299.00 devices

https://www.rvupgradestore.com/Micro-Air-ASY-364-X20-IP-EasyStart-364-AC-p/asy-364-x20-ip.htm

Important Note: Each AC unit requires an EasyStart unit to be installed.

Mel '96 Sahara

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mel96safari · Post by **mel96safari** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:47 am

'Before you waste $30+ be aware that those "cheater cords" are useless if/when the 15/20 Amp pedestal receptacle is GFCI protected, (which most are).
Mel'96 Sahara

---In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

LeisureCords 24'' RV Y Adapter Cord 50Amp Female Plug to One 30 Amp Male...Splits your 50 Amp Female to 30 Amp Male or 15 Amp Male -Specifications100% copper wire conductor inside -Heavy-...

Eddie2000 Safari Continental

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Craig Burrell · Post by **Craig Burrell** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:08 pm

' that sounds like experience speaking. How did you find that out?

On Monday, February 18, 2019, 11:13:08 AM CST, stuplich@... [Safarifriends] wrote:

Before you waste $30+ be aware that those "cheater cords" are useless if/when the 15/20 Amp pedestal receptacle is GFCI protected, (which most are).
Mel'96 Sahara

---In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

If there is a 15/20 amp plug in addition to the 30 Amp, you might consider getting one of these to bring you up to what you need: LeisureCords 24'' RV Y Adapter Cord 50Amp Female Plug to One 30 Amp Male and One 15 Amp Male 2.5 Feet with Handle (50 Amp Female - (1) 30 Amp Male & (1) 15 Amp Male)
$29.99

LeisureCords 24'' RV Y Adapter Cord 50Amp Female Plug to One 30 Amp Male...Splits your 50 Amp Female to 30 Amp Male or 15 Amp Male -Specifications100% copper wire conductor inside -Heavy-...

Eddie2000 Safari Continental

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mel96safari · Post by **mel96safari** » Tue Feb 19, 2019 12:53 am

'Experiance

Mel'96 Sahara

---In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

that sounds like experience speaking. How did you find that out?
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drralph111 · Post by **drralph111** » Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:18 am

'Can you use this with two 30 amp outlets using a 30 amp to 20 amp adapter for the second one. I know that it would bring the total up to 60 but is that acceptable?

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-------- Original message --------From: "Craig Burrell technolog1@... [Safarifriends]" Date: 2/19/19 8:08 AM (GMT-05:00) To: "stuplich@... [Safarifriends]" Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] Cheater Cord (was: Run 2 roof A/C on 30 Amp?)

that sounds like experience speaking. How did you find that out?

On Monday, February 18, 2019, 11:13:08 AM CST, stuplich@... [Safarifriends] wrote:

Before you waste $30+ be aware that those "cheater cords" are useless if/when the 15/20 Amp pedestal receptacle is GFCI protected, (which most are).
Mel'96 Sahara

---In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

If there is a 15/20 amp plug in addition to the 30 Amp, you might consider getting one of these to bring you up to what you need: LeisureCords 24'' RV Y Adapter Cord 50Amp Female Plug to One 30 Amp Male and One 15 Amp Male 2.5 Feet with Handle (50 Amp Female - (1) 30 Amp Male & (1) 15 Amp Male)
$29.99

LeisureCords 24'' RV Y Adapter Cord 50Amp Female Plug to One 30 Amp Male...Splits your 50 Amp Female to 30 Amp Male or 15 Amp Male -Specifications100% copper wire conductor inside -Heavy-...

Eddie2000 Safari Continental

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wolfe102001 · Post by **wolfe102001** » Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:41 am

'Would it work-- yes.
BUT, only because 30 amp has no GFI protection.
And, if the two hots are on the same side/phase, you could overload the neutral. In a properly wired 50 amp circuit, the neutral only carries the DIFFERENCE in loads between L1 and L2. In your example, the neutral could carry the SUM of loads on L1 and L2.
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Dale Maggio · Post by **Dale Maggio** » Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:45 pm

'I was going to suggest a stick of dynamite in the electrical bay would accomplish the same thing. I seriously doubt they would know how or where to check phasing.
-=Dale=-

On ?Wednesday?, ?March? ?06?, ?2019? ?06?:?41?:?30? ?PM? ?PST, bawolfe10@... [Safarifriends] wrote:

Would it work-- yes.
BUT, only because 30 amp has no GFI protection.
And, if the two hots are on the same side/phase, you could overload the neutral. In a properly wired 50 amp circuit, the neutral only carries the DIFFERENCE in loads between L1 and L2. In your example, the neutral could carry the SUM of loads on L1 and L2.
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