To further add to your memory bank, the two similar but different
Splendid washer/dryer combinations that you and Bill are talking about
are like apples and oranges, and you both are more or less correct on
the water consumption specs.
The reason Bills specs are higher, is he happened to have the VENTLESS
washer/dryer combo, and those units excrete more water by condensing
the water vapors that get removed out of the wet close, while the
vented units just blow the water vapors out to the outside via the
dryer vent. If I remember correctly, to add to the additional water
being drained out on the ventless units, they actually use additional
cold water to cool the hot moist air, using the additional water to
assist in the condensing process. This is likely part of the reason
why Bill tossed the unit. It is not practical in the RV application,
it was more designed for the European application where space is very
limited and the old buildings had very thick walls, so it was not
always practical or possible to vent the dryers. As Bill often says,
the DEVIL is in the details, and this time both y'all were correct.
Now everyone can sleep better tonight knowing that the specs can and
do vary between different washer/dryer units.
Mel, putting the spec discrepancy aside, if you look at the whole/big
picture of this conversation, you should get the gist of what Bill was
trying to say, ie, that the way Robert plumbed his washer/dryer runs a
high risk of having an ugly messy flood. One can be as careful as they
can ever be, but one good day, for what ever reason and/or
distraction, they will forget and WILL end up having an ugly smelly
flood. Even though it may be well intended, it is a foolish time bomb
waiting to happen.
Robert, forgive me for being blunt, but in all honesty, tying the
washer drain into the black water tank is a very bad idea, and
further, making an instructional presentation for others to do the
same, is down right poor judgment. I don't see why you could not have
sealed the gray hose in the existing/original washer drain pipe, in
the same fashion you sealed it in your presentation. This would avoid
a potential black tank disaster.
(please reconsider, and tie the drain into the gray water tank)
When your washer flooded, did you have the sewage drain cap open for
the water to drain out into the sewer dump drain???
Most often the floods happen by owners not reading/following
instructions, and attempt to use the washer with the drain cap
closed/not hooked up to the campground sewer system. This will cause
an instant flood, at least by the way SMC had the older coaches set
up. The good thing is the flood is of the clean type, meaning it is
not the black stuff that floods. In my humble opinion, SMC did it
correctly, the only other way it would be acceptable, in a sanitary
sense, to plumb the washer, is into the grey tank. This way, if it
does flood, it will not be a disgusting sanitary disaster like it
would be, if the black tank floods.
Also, your explanation does not seem to match the waste plumbing
diagram that you show in your presentation. In that diagram, it shows
that the washer drain exits after both black and gray gate valves.
Meaning that you have to be hooked up to the sewer line, and the
washer drains on its own, regardless whether the black and/or gray
gate valves are open. This is the way my system is plumbed, and the
same way a few other SMC built coaches I've seen, are plumbed.
I also recall you stating a while back, that most of your extensive
water damage, including the damage to the inverter happened because of
your skylight leak. You stated that the leak was so bad, that it was
actually filling up your waste tanks, so blaming the extensive damage
on one or two washer spills seems a bit misleading.
John
'95 Safari Serengeti 38ft, Cummins C8.3-300, Allison
6spd
On 9/3/19, stuplich@... [Safarifriends]
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'> bill
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> I don't know what washer you are taking about but the Splendide
> washer/dryer in my coach uses less than 15 gallons of water to do a complete
> wash AND 3 rinses, (none of which have ever drained into either the gray or
> black tank waste water tanks.
> Mel
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> '96 Sahara
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> ---In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
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> To add to Mr. Lewis”s commentary,. It should be noted that the washer uses
> something near 40 gallons of water. Since the black tank to which Mr. Lewis
> directs his washer water only holds 50 gallons a problem could quickly
> develop. Can you imagine 12 or 15 gallons of sewage waste already in the
> tank. It makes far more sense to direct the water to the grey water tank.
> Since my 99 Continental is earlier the design is directed to the black water
> tank drain directly below the exit of the tank behind the blade valve and
> intended to be used only in a campground and drained as used. It can go to
> the grey tank if the blade valve is open. The only way it can get to the
> tank, or either one is to be forced backwards up the drain to either tank
> which is not what was intended. Frankly I suspect the remnant issues Mr.
> Lewis discovered may be from inept operation or from greater expectations
> rather than product design.
> Bill Edwards
> 1999Panther
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