Re: New Help With Tires "Update"

[waltons@ymail.com]

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Greetings,

New member to the group - Hoping for some help with a tire question. I recently purchased a 1998 Safari Sahara 3044 from the original owner who's no longer able to keep it due to health reasons. It's been well cared for and has 73,000 miles on a Cat 3126 will all the service records since it was new. We're very happy with the purchase. 

However, I need to replace the tires. I've been looking over tons of posts on tire sizes and which ones could/should be used since the originals were a bit under rated. I'm a bit confused and was hoping someone could help me.

The unit originally came with 9R22.5 and it currently has 10R22.5 on it. I'm somewhat limited with suppliers  for both those sizes and everything I read says the closest metic size is either the 255/75R/22.5 or a 265/80/R22.5 but both of those show they need a wider rim than the 6.75 that came with the motorhome.

My questions is, what is the closest metric size to the original tire that will fit a 6.75" wheel width?

I'd like to find a tire that is a common size if one needs to be replaced on the road but I also would like it to fit the stock wheels - Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

J.Walton
Placerville, CA
1998 Safari Sahara 3044
3126 Cat 



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[TD]

'J. Walton,

Welcome to the group!

In all honesty, I'm surprised that a 10R22.5 actually fits your coach.
This is a common school bus tire, at least in our area (east coast),
and this size will give the smoothest ride out of all the size
mentioned below, but get what ever your comfortable with. All size
mentioned here will fit and work on your rims.

The tire size with the closest diameter to your original 9R22.5 tire
is a 265/75R22.5
Even this tire will fit the 6.75 inch wide rim, it is withing the
allowable tolerance specs.
Be aware, if you want to go with a Michelin tire, they use a slightly
different numbering system on some of their tire Michelin's equivalent
size to the 265/75R22.5 is a 255/80R22.5 either one will work.
Another alternative, but it is a lower profile tire, is a 255/70R22.5
This size was used on later model Safaris, and might give slightly
crisper and/or better handling, but it will be a bit stiffer/harsher
ride. Double check your placard to see what the original tire size
was.

What brand tires do you have on your coach right now?
How old are the tires (what are the DOT date codes)?

John
'95 Safari Serengeti 38ft, Cummins C8.3-300, Allison
6spd

On 10/4/19, waltons@... [Safarifriends]
wrote:

> Greetings,
>
>
> New member to the group - Hoping for some help with a tire question. I
> recently purchased a 1998 Safari Sahara 3044 from the original owner who's
> no longer able to keep it due to health reasons. It's been well cared for
> and has 73,000 miles on a Cat 3126 will all the service records since it was
> new. We're very happy with the purchase.
>
>
> However, I need to replace the tires. I've been looking over tons of posts
> on tire sizes and which ones could/should be used since the originals were a
> bit under rated. I'm a bit confused and was hoping someone could help me.
>
>
> The unit originally came with 9R22.5 and it currently has 10R22.5 on it.
> I'm somewhat limited with suppliers for both those sizes and everything I
> read says the closest metic size is either the 255/75R/22.5 or a
> 265/80/R22.5 but both of those show they need a wider rim than the 6.75 that
> came with the motorhome.
>
>
> My questions is, what is the closest metric size to the original tire that
> will fit a 6.75" wheel width?
>
>
> I'd like to find a tire that is a common size if one needs to be replaced
> on the road but I also would like it to fit the stock wheels - Any help
> would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> J.Walton
> Placerville, CA
> 1998 Safari Sahara 3044
> 3126 Cat
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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[James Exler]

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J Walton,

Did you check for a wheel number on the wheel and look it up in the catalog? Do not trust the advertising literature.

The wheels are most likely made by Accuride.

My 98 3044 had wheel # 27403 which was a 7.5" width.

I would not go above a G rated tire; the original was F and was more than capable of supporting that coach. The higher the ply the harder the tire.

Be sure to weigh the coach and adjust the pressure based on the weigh reading if you want it to handle properly. Mine was very light on the front.

Jim Exler, Nampa, ID

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On 10/4/2019 9:22 PM, waltons@... [Safarifriends] wrote:

 


Greetings,




New member to the group - Hoping for some help with a tire question. I recently purchased a 1998 Safari Sahara 3044 from the original owner who's no longer able to keep it due to health reasons. It's been well cared for and has 73,000 miles on a Cat 3126
will all the service records since it was new. We're very happy with the purchase. 




However, I need to replace the tires. I've been looking over tons of posts on tire sizes and which ones could/should be used since the originals were a bit under rated. I'm a bit confused and was hoping someone could help me.




The unit originally came with 9R22.5 and it currently has 10R22.5 on it. I'm somewhat limited with suppliers  for both those sizes and everything I read says the closest metic size is either the 255/75R/22.5 or a 265/80/R22.5 but both of those show they
need a wider rim than the 6.75 that came with the motorhome.




My questions is, what is the closest metric size to the original tire that will fit a 6.75" wheel width?




I'd like to find a tire that is a common size if one needs to be replaced on the road but I also would like it to fit the stock wheels - Any help would be greatly appreciated.




Thanks,




J.Walton

Placerville, CA

1998 Safari Sahara 3044

3126 Cat 

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[waltons@ymail.com]

'Hi John,
Thanks for the help. The tires that are on it now are Toyo's and have a DOT date code of 2007. While the look great they are way too old to be driven on. 
I've talked to a few tire stores and can't seem to get a good answer or feel they know what they're talking about and nobody seems to agree whether the they will fit the 6.75" rim width or if the off set is enough to clear the duals in the rear.
I'm trying to find the most common tire size (availably wise) in the size that is closest to the original size of the 9R/22.5 with bit higher load rating that will fit both the rims I have and offset for the duals. My thinking is I don't want to put a tire size on that I can't get a replacement if I'm out on the road in a remote area so I'd like to avoid the 9R or 10R's all together.
Thanks-Joel1998 Safari Sahara 3044'

[wolfe102001]

'If you have verified that you do have 6.75" rims, here are your choices:
9R22.5Michelin 255/80R22.5Other brands 265/75R22.5
All these are proven on the 6.75" rims.
'

[W Taylor Hudson]

'Thanks to all. Appreciate the good gouge. I will be coming up on this soon.  Have AKW #28841 22.5 x 7.5 wheels with Hercules H-902 (obviously budget line) tires 255/70R22.5 (placard sized tires).  Roughly four years old on crack free tires with 7 K miles on them. 
Thinking of buying two name brand steer tires every other year putting the new tires  on the front, passing existing to the back, retaining one tire as a spare.  Idea is to keep new tires on the steer axle and disperse replacement cost across a normal six year period.  Any opinions on this practice.   Thanks. v/r,
Taylor Hudson‘98 Safari Serengeti (4060), CAR 3126acquired 2018

On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 3:06 PM bawolfe10@... [Safarifriends] wrote:
 
If you have verified that you do have 6.75" rims, here are your choices:
9R22.5Michelin 255/80R22.5Other brands 265/75R22.5
All these are proven on the 6.75" rims.

'

[waltons@ymail.com]

'Thanks! Looks like the only supplier I can find is Michelin's '

[Bill Edwards]

' GOOD idea  
Bill Edwards1999 Panther

On Saturday, October 5, 2019, 03:34:09 PM MDT, W Taylor Hudson fpengr@... [Safarifriends] wrote:

 
Thanks to all. Appreciate the good gouge. I will be coming up on this soon.  Have AKW #28841 22.5 x 7.5 wheels with Hercules H-902 (obviously budget line) tires 255/70R22.5 (placard sized tires).  Roughly four years old on crack free tires with 7 K miles on them. 
Thinking of buying two name brand steer tires every other year putting the new tires  on the front, passing existing to the back, retaining one tire as a spare.  Idea is to keep new tires on the steer axle and disperse replacement cost across a normal six year period.  Any opinions on this practice.   Thanks. v/r,
Taylor Hudson‘98 Safari Serengeti (4060), CAR 3126acquired 2018
On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 3:06 PM bawolfe10@hotmail..com [Safarifriends] wrote:
 
If you have verified that you do have 6.75" rims, here are your choices:
9R22.5Michelin 255/80R22.5Other brands 265/75R22.5
All these are proven on the 6.75" rims.

'

[TD]

'Waltons,

If you are a member of FMCA, they off a substantial discount program
on Michelin tires.
That said, unless you are in a very remote place, it seems hard to
believe that all the tire shops in your area only offer Michelin
tires.
Many RVers have had great results using Toyo tires. They age well and
are considerably less costly than the more well known brands. Your
tires are proof of that.
I would suggest to call around and expand your search to other tire
shops and HD truck shops.
Another note, it has been my observation and experience that Goodyear
tires age very well compared to other brands, and since most RV tires
age out far sooner than they can wear out, that is something to
consider.

When you do have the tires replaced, please ask the tire technician to
inspect the tires inside and out for age/weather and other damage and
give an opinion as to the condition of the tires. This will help
provide valuable feed back for the Toyo brand tires, which helps
people make informed decisions when buying new tires. Very often folks
will review a tire when it is a few months old, but forget to provide
feedback when the tire is being replaced, and the end of life cycle
reviews are what is important.

Thank you,

John
'95 Serengeti, Cummins C803-300,
Allison 6spd

On 10/5/19, waltons@... [Safarifriends]
wrote:

> Thanks! Looks like the only supplier I can find is Michelin's
>

'

[waltons@ymail.com]

'Hi Guys,
Just wanted to give you all an update on what I ended undoing for tires..
After looking around and shopping I decided to go with a set of 255/70R22.5 Uniroyal RS20 tires. I got a new set of six installed for $1,809.00 out the door with road hazard warranty from my local Big-O Tire outlet. They are a bit smaller than the stock 9R22.5 but at 16 ply have a way better load rating.
The 10R22.5 that I took off were way too big and had been rubbing on the inside of the frame on the rear duals. They were 12 years old and showed no signs of aging. The manager at the tire shop was surprised how well they'd held up for being so old. 
I ended up going with the 255/70R22.5 because they were the most common size I could get, (In case I lose one on the road) they had the best load rating for the dollar, and the price was right. I'm also hoping the smaller tires help the handling of the shorter wheel base pusher.
Thanks for the help!
Joel WaltonPlacerville, CA1998 Safari Sahara 3044Cat 3126 / New Owner'