Re: 1998 Beaver Marquis Diamante (Magnum Chassis)

georgeking1845@bellsouth.net · Mon Oct 07, 2019 3:22 am

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I know I'm not a Safari owner ,but I've been following this group because it has good Magnum chassis info and I believe my 1998 Beaver may have possibly been produced by Safari. Would it be safe for me to ask a Magnum chassis question Here? I recently noticed that my front sway or drag link Bushings are coming apart , has anyone else had to change out theses bushings or the rear control arm bushings? Maybe who specializes in these repairs and costs associated with it?

George King
1998 Beaver Marquis Diamante
Magnum Chassis
C-12 CAT 6 speed Allison
Franklin Tennessee '

TD · Post by TD » Mon Oct 07, 2019 4:18 am

'George,

Your coach was manufactured by Safari (SMC). SMC bought Beaver out in
'94, so all Beaver coaches made till around '01 or '02 were built by
SMC.

Does your coach have an air ride suspension?
If yes, how many air bags?

If it is an 8 air bag suspension, some of the Safari Panther owners
with the air ride suspension may have the information you need.

If you have not joined this group already, here is a link to a Beaver
forum/group that might have more info that you're looking for.
www.beaveramb.org

John
'95 Serengeti, Cummins C8.3-300, Allison
6spd

On 10/7/19, georgeking1845@... [Safarifriends]
wrote:

> I know I'm not a Safari owner ,but I've been following this group because it
> has good Magnum chassis info and I believe my 1998 Beaver may have possibly
> been produced by Safari. Would it be safe for me to ask a Magnum chassis
> question Here? I recently noticed that my front sway or drag link Bushings
> are coming apart , has anyone else had to change out theses bushings or the
> rear control arm bushings? Maybe who specializes in these repairs and costs
> associated with it?
>
>
> George King
> 1998 Beaver Marquis Diamante
> Magnum Chassis
> C-12 CAT 6 speed Allison
> Franklin Tennessee
>

'

Bilmac36 · Post by **Bilmac36** » Mon Oct 07, 2019 7:57 am

'George, I replaced my front sway bar bushings as well as new support arms Earlier this summer. I found an outfit out of WAshington state that still had OEM parts in OEM packaging. So they were new old parts. That being said I replaced both the support arms and the 4 bushings associated with each support arm.,The ‘new support arms’ were a bit beefer than the ones I pulled off. The bar diameter was thicker and I liked the idea they are a bit more HD. During my research for the parts I did find new bushings being sold as sets. You may want to measure an existing intact bushing and merely order them separately as such. Recommend getting under couple days ahead and use some descent penetrating oil on the bolts and threaded support arm bars to help in their removal.R/Willie, Connie is ‘95 Continental, 8.3L, Ally 6spd
Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 7, 2019, at 1:21 PM, TD sdjhtm@... [Safarifriends] wrote:

?
George,

Your coach was manufactured by Safari (SMC). SMC bought Beaver out in
'94, so all Beaver coaches made till around '01 or '02 were built by
SMC.

Does your coach have an air ride suspension?
If yes, how many air bags?

If it is an 8 air bag suspension, some of the Safari Panther owners
with the air ride suspension may have the information you need.

If you have not joined this group already, here is a link to a Beaver
forum/group that might have more info that you're looking for.
www.beaveramb.org

John
'95 Serengeti, Cummins C8.3-300, Allison
6spd

On 10/7/19, georgeking1845@... [Safarifriends]
wrote:
> I know I'm not a Safari owner ,but I've been following this group because it
> has good Magnum chassis info and I believe my 1998 Beaver may have possibly
> been produced by Safari. Would it be safe for me to ask a Magnum chassis
> question Here? I recently noticed that my front sway or drag link Bushings
> are coming apart , has anyone else had to change out theses bushings or the
> rear control arm bushings? Maybe who specializes in these repairs and costs
> associated with it?
>
>
> George King
> 1998 Beaver Marquis Diamante
> Magnum Chassis
> C-12 CAT 6 speed Allison
> Franklin Tennessee
>
'

Gary Smith · Post by **Gary Smith** » Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:32 am

'Willie, what was the source you found? Would be helpful info for George and a few others
--
Gary
'98 Sahara 3006 300CAT
'

Bill Edwards · Post by **Bill Edwards** » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:28 am

' Willie ,nice reply on the bushings but you did not share the source...May I ask why?
Bill Edwards1999 Panther

On Monday, October 7, 2019, 03:03:08 PM MDT, bilmac36 bilmac36@... [Safarifriends] wrote:

George, I replaced my front sway bar bushings as well as new support arms Earlier this summer. I found an outfit out of WAshington state that still had OEM parts in OEM packaging. So they were new old parts.. That being said I replaced both the support arms and the 4 bushings associated with each support arm.,The ‘new support arms’ were a bit beefer than the ones I pulled off. The bar diameter was thicker and I liked the idea they are a bit more HD. During my research for the parts I did find new bushings being sold as sets. You may want to measure an existing intact bushing and merely order them separately as such. Recommend getting under couple days ahead and use some descent penetrating oil on the bolts and threaded support arm bars to help in their removal.R/Willie, Connie is ‘95 Continental, 8.3L, Ally 6spd
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 7, 2019, at 1:21 PM, TD sdjhtm@... [Safarifriends] wrote:

?
George,

Your coach was manufactured by Safari (SMC). SMC bought Beaver out in
'94, so all Beaver coaches made till around '01 or '02 were built by
SMC.

Does your coach have an air ride suspension?
If yes, how many air bags?

If it is an 8 air bag suspension, some of the Safari Panther owners
with the air ride suspension may have the information you need.

If you have not joined this group already, here is a link to a Beaver
forum/group that might have more info that you're looking for.
www.beaveramb.org

John
'95 Serengeti, Cummins C8.3-300, Allison
6spd

On 10/7/19, georgeking1845@... [Safarifriends]
wrote:
> I know I'm not a Safari owner ,but I've been following this group because it
> has good Magnum chassis info and I believe my 1998 Beaver may have possibly
> been produced by Safari. Would it be safe for me to ask a Magnum chassis
> question Here? I recently noticed that my front sway or drag link Bushings
> are coming apart , has anyone else had to change out theses bushings or the
> rear control arm bushings? Maybe who specializes in these repairs and costs
> associated with it?
>
>
> George King
> 1998 Beaver Marquis Diamante
> Magnum Chassis
> C-12 CAT 6 speed Allison
> Franklin Tennessee
>
'

Bilmac36 · Post by **Bilmac36** » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:56 pm

'Good morning. I agree. I’m just making my way back home after being over in Europe. Currently visiting family and grands in VA. Once I get home I’ll look it up and post. (Actually I’ll double ck using my ph to see if have in here, getting over a cold bug, so taking a moment to filter through the neurons.??)R/Willie, Connie is ‘95 Continental, 8.3L, Ally 6spd

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 7, 2019, at 6:32 PM, Gary Smith trekker01@... [Safarifriends] wrote:

?
Willie, what was the source you found? Would be helpful info for George and a few others
--
Gary
'98 Sahara 3006 300CAT

'

Bilmac36 · Post by **Bilmac36** » Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:04 pm

'Hey fellas, yea, I should have posted the source yesterday, but honestly I was doing good to thumb type as well as I did. Think I sweated out the cold last night so not as lethargic as was yesterday. I’m getting better making notes in ph so believe this is the folks I used. If it wasn’t this outfit, then they are the ones that turned me on to who I did get the parts from. I’m going to ck my notes I write up and keep online. So I may add to this here in a bit.

RV, UltraRVProducts.com Helped With Connie Parts+1 (360) 736-2158
R/Willie, Connie is ‘95 Continental, 8.3L, Ally 6spd
Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 7, 2019, at 7:30 PM, Bill Edwards billedwardsrs@... [Safarifriends] wrote:

?
Willie ,nice reply on the bushings but you did not share the source...May I ask why?
Bill Edwards1999 Panther
On Monday, October 7, 2019, 03:03:08 PM MDT, bilmac36 bilmac36@... [Safarifriends] wrote:

George, I replaced my front sway bar bushings as well as new support arms Earlier this summer. I found an outfit out of WAshington state that still had OEM parts in OEM packaging. So they were new old parts.. That being said I replaced both the support arms and the 4 bushings associated with each support arm.,The ‘new support arms’ were a bit beefer than the ones I pulled off. The bar diameter was thicker and I liked the idea they are a bit more HD. During my research for the parts I did find new bushings being sold as sets. You may want to measure an existing intact bushing and merely order them separately as such. Recommend getting under couple days ahead and use some descent penetrating oil on the bolts and threaded support arm bars to help in their removal.R/Willie, Connie is ‘95 Continental, 8.3L, Ally 6spd
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 7, 2019, at 1:21 PM, TD sdjhtm@... [Safarifriends] wrote:

?
George,

Your coach was manufactured by Safari (SMC). SMC bought Beaver out in
'94, so all Beaver coaches made till around '01 or '02 were built by
SMC.

Does your coach have an air ride suspension?
If yes, how many air bags?

If it is an 8 air bag suspension, some of the Safari Panther owners
with the air ride suspension may have the information you need.

If you have not joined this group already, here is a link to a Beaver
forum/group that might have more info that you're looking for.
www.beaveramb.org

John
'95 Serengeti, Cummins C8.3-300, Allison
6spd

On 10/7/19, georgeking1845@... [Safarifriends]
wrote:
> I know I'm not a Safari owner ,but I've been following this group because it
> has good Magnum chassis info and I believe my 1998 Beaver may have possibly
> been produced by Safari. Would it be safe for me to ask a Magnum chassis
> question Here? I recently noticed that my front sway or drag link Bushings
> are coming apart , has anyone else had to change out theses bushings or the
> rear control arm bushings? Maybe who specializes in these repairs and costs
> associated with it?
>
>
> George King
> 1998 Beaver Marquis Diamante
> Magnum Chassis
> C-12 CAT 6 speed Allison
> Franklin Tennessee
>

'

Bilmac36 · Post by **Bilmac36** » Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:47 am

'George! Found my Source! I bought my set in April 2019 from these folks. The fella was pretty knowledgeable. I purchased both front and rear sets. Thought I’d taken a pix of the parts when they arrived, but not finding it.
RV- Duane &Pioneer Metal Works Quincy, WA+1 (509) 398-0965
Will add to what I wrote earlier. Depending on how you have the coach situated you’ll be doing a lot of bending over, crawling, on your back, contortionist type moves at times. If you can pre-stage your tools and or have someone who can be a go getter (typically the goffer, go far this, or go far that) you’ll possibly save yourself some up and down exercising, as well help make the evolution a bit less aggravating. I’m going to try and attach a before pix and afterwards short video. Also, I tried to keep measurements the same, so I measured the distances from mounting frame to sway bar end, etc to hopefully prevent any issues once everything was reassembled. You’ll note their are inner and outer adjusting/tightening nuts at each end of the threaded rod. Depending on how you remove the rods will depend if you have to deal with one or both.R/Willie, Connie is ‘95 Continental, 8.3L, Ally 6spd
'

Bilmac36 · Post by **Bilmac36** » Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:55 am

'George, I just posted my last reply to you at 0948 Eastern time. It has the contact info for where I acquired my parts, along with a bit more recommendations and a a couple of pix. Please let me know if you see it posted or not. I can always send directly to your address.R/Willie, Connie is ‘95 Continental, 8.3L, Ally 6spd

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 7, 2019, at 12:23 PM, georgeking1845@... [Safarifriends] wrote:

?

I know I'm not a Safari owner ,but I've been following this group because it has good Magnum chassis info and I believe my 1998 Beaver may have possibly been produced by Safari. Would it be safe for me to ask a Magnum chassis question Here? I recently noticed that my front sway or drag link Bushings are coming apart , has anyone else had to change out theses bushings or the rear control arm bushings? Maybe who specializes in these repairs and costs associated with it?

George King
1998 Beaver Marquis Diamante
Magnum Chassis
C-12 CAT 6 speed Allison
Franklin Tennessee
'

Bill Edwards · Post by **Bill Edwards** » Tue Oct 08, 2019 1:05 am

' thank you willie b

On Tuesday, October 8, 2019, 06:04:13 AM MDT, bilmac36 bilmac36@... [Safarifriends] wrote:

Hey fellas, yea, I should have posted the source yesterday, but honestly I was doing good to thumb type as well as I did. Think I sweated out the cold last night so not as lethargic as was yesterday. I’m getting better making notes in ph so believe this is the folks I used. If it wasn’t this outfit, then they are the ones that turned me on to who I did get the parts from. I’m going to ck my notes I write up and keep online. So I may add to this here in a bit.

RV, UltraRVProducts.com Helped With Connie Parts+1 (360) 736-2158
R/Willie, Connie is ‘95 Continental, 8.3L, Ally 6spd
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 7, 2019, at 7:30 PM, Bill Edwards billedwardsrs@... [Safarifriends] wrote:

?
Willie ,nice reply on the bushings but you did not share the source...May I ask why?
Bill Edwards1999 Panther
On Monday, October 7, 2019, 03:03:08 PM MDT, bilmac36 bilmac36@... [Safarifriends] wrote:

George, I replaced my front sway bar bushings as well as new support arms Earlier this summer. I found an outfit out of WAshington state that still had OEM parts in OEM packaging. So they were new old parts.. That being said I replaced both the support arms and the 4 bushings associated with each support arm.,The ‘new support arms’ were a bit beefer than the ones I pulled off. The bar diameter was thicker and I liked the idea they are a bit more HD. During my research for the parts I did find new bushings being sold as sets. You may want to measure an existing intact bushing and merely order them separately as such. Recommend getting under couple days ahead and use some descent penetrating oil on the bolts and threaded support arm bars to help in their removal.R/Willie, Connie is ‘95 Continental, 8.3L, Ally 6spd
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 7, 2019, at 1:21 PM, TD sdjhtm@... [Safarifriends] wrote:

?
George,

Your coach was manufactured by Safari (SMC). SMC bought Beaver out in
'94, so all Beaver coaches made till around '01 or '02 were built by
SMC.

Does your coach have an air ride suspension?
If yes, how many air bags?

If it is an 8 air bag suspension, some of the Safari Panther owners
with the air ride suspension may have the information you need.

If you have not joined this group already, here is a link to a Beaver
forum/group that might have more info that you're looking for.
www.beaveramb.org

John
'95 Serengeti, Cummins C8.3-300, Allison
6spd

On 10/7/19, georgeking1845@... [Safarifriends]
wrote:
> I know I'm not a Safari owner ,but I've been following this group because it
> has good Magnum chassis info and I believe my 1998 Beaver may have possibly
> been produced by Safari. Would it be safe for me to ask a Magnum chassis
> question Here? I recently noticed that my front sway or drag link Bushings
> are coming apart , has anyone else had to change out theses bushings or the
> rear control arm bushings? Maybe who specializes in these repairs and costs
> associated with it?
>
>
> George King
> 1998 Beaver Marquis Diamante
> Magnum Chassis
> C-12 CAT 6 speed Allison
> Franklin Tennessee
>

'