No start with key

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bowhunter3125
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No start with key

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I am unable to start my MH with the key, I have to use the start button in the service center. This all started after my son played with the leveling system up front in the driver's compartment. All the ja KS appear to be up, and I get no warning alarm. I have checked the ignition, I get 12v whe I tur. The key to the start position. On another note, anyone know where I can get a new ignition? I royaly screwed up the threads on the housing
99' Safari Continental Panther 425
Cat C12
Knollibe
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Re: No start with key

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By looking at the key. It appears my 96 safari is a Chevrolet key. A well stocked parts house should be able to get one. Take your old one in.
You should also use test light to verify start signal is not passing through switch. If it is then check harness under dash. There is large connector that I have had problems with.
Dwayne
1996 safari Sahara since 2010
Chev Colorado zr2 toad, electric pedego bikes.
3rd motorhome.
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Re: No start with key

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bowhunter3125 wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 10:04 pm I am unable to start my MH with the key, I have to use the start button in the service center. This all started after my son played with the leveling system up front in the driver's compartment. All the ja KS appear to be up, and I get no warning alarm. I have checked the ignition, I get 12v whe I tur. The key to the start position. On another note, anyone know where I can get a new ignition? I royaly screwed up the threads on the housing
bowhunter
1968 1969 1970 CHEVY TRUCK IGNITION SWITCH
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Mel
'96 Sahara 3530, mine since '01
250 hp 3126 Cat, MD3060 Allison
bowhunter3125
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Re: No start with key

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stuplich@ymail.com wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:58 am
bowhunter3125 wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 10:04 pm I am unable to start my MH with the key, I have to use the start button in the service center. This all started after my son played with the leveling system up front in the driver's compartment. All the ja KS appear to be up, and I get no warning alarm. I have checked the ignition, I get 12v whe I tur. The key to the start position. On another note, anyone know where I can get a new ignition? I royaly screwed up the threads on the housing
bowhunter
1968 1969 1970 CHEVY TRUCK IGNITION SWITCH
https://www.ebay.com/itm/174781978507?c ... xmEALw_wcB
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Well that was freaking easy. Thanks.
99' Safari Continental Panther 425
Cat C12
bowhunter3125
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Re: No start with key

Post by bowhunter3125 »

Put a new ignition in, still will not start with the key. Thinking the level system is causing issues.
99' Safari Continental Panther 425
Cat C12
LeeTN
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Re: No start with key

Post by LeeTN »

Bowhunder,

My '93 Continental has a security chip under the dash (just plugged into a wired socket hanging above the throttle pedal).

If it gets just a little loose, mine won't start. I finally zip-tied mine in because it kept getting loose. Your Continental is considerably newer but might be worth a check under the dash. It kinda looks like a large blade-type fuse.

Lee

'93 Continenal 40'
300 Cummins
Lee
1993 Continental 40'
Oshkosh Chassis -- Cummins 300 -- Allison 6sp
TDJohn
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Re: No start with key

Post by TDJohn »

Bowhunter,

When you turn your ignition to the on position, does the Allison transmission pad light up?
With the ignition on, does you dash a/c/heater fan go on?
If neither work, it could be your ignition solenoid.
John
'95 Serengeti, Cummins C8.3-300
Allison 6spd.
bowhunter3125
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Re: No start with key

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Time to get back at this, yes the Allison shift pad lights up and the fans work, i did not see a security type fuse under the dash either. I checked the main fuse breaker relay and it is working fine. I replaced the ignition again, but still not luck. At least i can still start from the back button, but man thats annoying to have to get out to start the MH.
99' Safari Continental Panther 425
Cat C12
TDJohn
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Re: No start with key

Post by TDJohn »

Find the Allison VIM (black box) open it up and check the fuses inside. Also check and see if your are getting constant power into the VIM. There are two power sources that feed the VIM, one is constant power and the other is power supplied only when ignition is non. Do a search, somewhere on this sight there should be a photo of what the VIM looks like...
John
'95 Serengeti, Cummins C8.3-300
Allison 6spd.
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Re: No start with key

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The Allison VIM, [Vehicle Interface Module]:
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Mel
'96 Sahara 3530, mine since '01
250 hp 3126 Cat, MD3060 Allison
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