95 Serengeti - Have Running Lights but no High/Low Headlights

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Re: 95 Serengeti - Have Running Lights but no High/Low Headlights

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QuantumRift wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 2:24 pm
If the headlight switch is getting hot on dash, that's a sure sign it doesn't have relays. If current is going thru that dimmer switch as well, that switch can fail, and he would have voltage going into the dimmer but nothing coming out of it, no matter what the position.
This is an interesting point, I may try to replace the headlight switch all together just to make sure, I did verify power was getting to the switch but it may simply just be faulty. Now...to locate one of those switches...
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Re: 95 Serengeti - Have Running Lights but no High/Low Headlights

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AstrOverlander wrote: Sat May 11, 2024 5:19 pm
TDJohn wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 7:16 pm It is possible that your headlight switch went bad, so you would also need to test that. If it is bad, pick up a headlight switch at the auto parts store. Tell them that you need a headlight switch for an '86 Ford Bronco or F150, as that will be a direct replacement for a '95 model year. I'm not sure on the newer model Safaris.

Also, most, if not all Safari coaches have driving lights (switch is on the left dash, in the row of switches). If those lights work, it should get you by in a pinch if you need to drive it at night. On my coach, they work better than the headlights. :roll:
Howdy, I pulled the switch panel and verified power is going to the headlight switch in all positions. I def have drive/running lights but no headlights or high beams. I'm pretty confused at the moment.

Thanks for the info on the driving lights, I'll check out if I have those.
More importantly, did you verify that there is power going OUT of the headlight switch??? If there is power going in, but no power going out, this would mean that the switch is defective. If you do need to replace the switch, it is a Ford headlight switch. Tell the parts guy that you need a headlight switch from a 1986 Ford F150 (or an '86 Ford Bronco).
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Re: 95 Serengeti - Have Running Lights but no High/Low Headlights

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Your wiring looks much different than our '97, no surprise there. Using a volt meter under the hood see if you can find the hot wires when the headlight switch is turned on. I would also use the meter to check the fuses, it doesn't look like your fuse cover is marked any longer. They can be checked without removal using the continuity setting on voltmeter and putting the probes on either side of each fuse in the holes on top of the fuse.
I know you said the headlights are on relays, but your pictures don't show them. When wired correctly the wire that went to the headlights is used to trigger the relay to turn on either low or high beams, 2 relays are required. A separate hot wire is run to the relay fom a constant hot source. Then from the relays to the headlights. New heavier gauge wires are used, usually 10 or 12 gauge. When you get them working they will be brighter than original. Brief, but I hope this helps. There is lots of online help to hookup relays: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W2Mr2Zgv1Ck
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Re: 95 Serengeti - Have Running Lights but no High/Low Headlights

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1Lotosrggp wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 6:14 pm Your wiring looks much different than our '97, no surprise there. Using a volt meter under the hood see if you can find the hot wires when the headlight switch is turned on. I would also use the meter to check the fuses, it doesn't look like your fuse cover is marked any longer. They can be checked without removal using the continuity setting on voltmeter and putting the probes on either side of each fuse in the holes on top of the fuse.
I know you said the headlights are on relays, but your pictures don't show them. When wired correctly the wire that went to the headlights is used to trigger the relay to turn on either low or high beams, 2 relays are required. A separate hot wire is run to the relay fom a constant hot source. Then from the relays to the headlights. New heavier gauge wires are used, usually 10 or 12 gauge. When you get them working they will be brighter than original. Brief, but I hope this helps. There is lots of online help to hookup relays: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W2Mr2Zgv1Ck
Thank you very much for the reply. I had to put the headlight relay issue on hold for a while and stuck to only driving during the day for now. I'm about ready to focus on it again and the information along with the relay video helped me out a lot. I'll update once I've finished the project and discovered the problem.
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Re: 95 Serengeti - Have Running Lights but no High/Low Headlights

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In previous posts, you mentioned that you were getting power to the headlight switch, but you did not say if you were getting power out of the headlight switch. Did you test for power exiting the headlight switch going to the headlights?
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